Not Everyone Who Says Lord!

 

Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matt7:21-23

 

By Nature Deception is not easily perceived. Schemes and trickery can be very difficult to unravel. If the Sniper was obvious to everyone, he would not be effective in completing his mission. Therefore he must become an expert in the art of camouflage. The Spy has to convince his adversaries that he is loyal to their cause while at the same time he is working against them. No System of Deception is going to work unless it can FIRST take on the APPEARANCE of acceptability.

 

Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them. Matt7:15-20

 

Who are the False Prophets? Can anyone identify them? Is their treachery obvious? Jesus said they will Appear to you as SHEEP, but inwardly they are deadly vicious animals! The Apostle Paul went even further and said they would actually ‘MORPH’ themselves with an appearance of godliness. (2Tim3:5) In plain language, he is saying that these people would Look and Act the part of a Real Christian, while actually WORKING for the Kingdom of Darkness!

 

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. 2Cor11:13-15

 

The Chinch in their armor however is what they PRODUCE. Jesus said that a GOOD TREE CANNOT bear BAD Fruit, Neither can BAD TREE bear GOOD Fruit. BUT if the False Prophets can CONVINCE everyone that the BAD FRUIT is actually Good, (acceptable to God!) how outrageously Diabolical would their Deception be!? WHO then Could Identify these workers of iniquity but God Himself!

 

Therefore take heed that the light which is in you is not darkness. If then your whole body is full of light, having no part dark, the whole body will be full of light, as when the bright shining of a lamp gives you light.”Lk11:35-36

 

Every Church claims to be Preaching the True Gospel of Christ. The Ministers appear 100% sincere, friendly and approachable. They act the part of Christians, doing good works, charitable outreach and a host of community services. No one questions or challenges the quality of their work. The Converts they produce adhere to an acceptable Standard that everyone is satisfied with, believing it to be an expression of Genuine Christianity. Therefore Judging by ‘Fruit’ the Tree gives the impression of good produce.

Yet it is ROTTEN to the Root!

 

Like a column of Soldiers pinned down by an expert Sniper, those of you attending the Present Day churches will have an extremely difficult time pin-pointing the Deception and doing anything to combat it. For the most part you are satisfied that your pastor is doing a fine job and that many of people around you (although they may be a bit lukewarm and complacent toward God) are indeed ‘Christians’ and it’s not your place to Challenge the reality of anyone’s profession. From this vantage point, being Confronted with some Harsh Reality is NOT going to be easy for you to swallow. Truth may be Sweet in your mouth, but to those of you pinned down by the Sniper it will become Sour in your Stomach.

The Holy Prophets of old said that the Truth was Fallen in the Streets, that the Shepherds had all become dull hearted, like dumb dogs unable to bark. They have sown wheat but reaped thorns! They have put forth the effort, but are un-approved in the Faith!  

We have Sought for a person among them to Raise the Standard, (Stand in the Gap!) on behalf of the Truth, to avert the Judgment of God. BUT we have Found NO ONE! Our Email Campaigns now number in the thousands of responses. We have solicited a cross section of Evangelical Denominations, Bible Colleges, Seminaries and local independent churches. What we are about to Show you is PROOF POSITIVE that the True Gospel of Jesus Christ has been Rendered COMPLETELY Ineffective in our churches today.

 

This is by NO MEANS a full disclosure of our findings however. (that would require a HUGE undertaking and a document so large no one would read it!) What we have done is Select those Emails that represent the Common Thread of Hundreds we have received.  Therefore when you read a Pastor’s response stating something totally contrary to the Bible, Realize that there are hundreds more just like it. If you find yourself Disturbed by any of these things and require further proof that the Great Apostasy is NOW taking place in your midst, please feel free to contact us and we will help you dig further into the Truth.

 

Regrettably (experience has shown us) MOST of you will pass this off with a shrug of the shoulders and remain loyal to your churches and pastors. Unraveling this Mess in your own minds will require a great deal of Diligence, focus and Study of the Word. Those of you who refuse to remove your Rose Colored glasses and take a close look at the Grim Reality of the situation, will most likely NEVER come out.

 

To many the Standards are Acceptable, the Words Smooth and reassuring. The System itself has all the APPEARANCES of legitimacy! The Ministers are as ‘harmless’ as Lambs and the PROMISE of eternal life in Christ is the Common Property of the Church. Two Thousand years ago, Peter said this:

 

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; (Molding their speech!)  for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber 2Pet2:1-3

 

By Molding their Words, Present day Pastors Preach the Gospel in Reverse!

 

1)       They have you Coming to Christ IN your sins, NOT Repenting of them

2)       They say that God will Clean you up later, NOT that your heart will be made Pure by Faith

3)       They say that the Old man Dies by Process and is NOT Crucified with Christ in Repentance

 

Since MOST of you have been ‘Saved’ under this Deception, it’s going to be rather difficult for you to recognize any of it. Your ears are accustom to the tickling sound of Un-merited favor and the Free Gift of eternal life! Therefore it would be Futile for us to cover the same ground again to PROVE them wrong by Scripture, because we have done so several times already. Here we want to show you the Manner in which the Gospel is coming forth, Step by Step, under the ASSUMPTION that you will examine the Scriptures yourselves and draw your own conclusions as to WHERE to place your loyalties going forward.

 

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 We found NO Exceptions to Coming as you are, ‘in your sins’ 

1)       Not a Single Person Mentioned the Repentance of 2Cor7:10-11

2)       They Included even ‘Child Molesters’ coming in their sin

3)       Many of them wrongly used instances of repentance in the Bible, claiming the person was saved in their sin. (Zacchaeus, Prodigal Son, Woman at well, thief on Cross)

4)       Most of them said that no one could do anything about their sin until AFTER they were saved

5)       And Many went as far as to say that God DOES NOT expect the sin to Stop before or after Salvation! Otherwise you’d have to Perfect to be Saved!

 

REMEMBER: These are the Pastors in the Churches YOU NOW Attend. If you Think what they saying behind all the Fluff is True, there is little hope anything will convince you otherwise. Blind loyalty can be a very Powerful force, but DON’T let it Cost you your eternal Soul.

 

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Coming IN Your Sin!

 

You asked: “If a person is a child molester does he have to stop molesting children in order to receive Jesus?”

 

My answer:  Absolutely not. A person does not need to stop anything, start anything, or do anything at all to have God or Jesus in their life.  It is just the opposite.  Rather than stopping molesting in order to receive Jesus, it is receiving Jesus in order to stop molesting.

I would go even further:  God is already in that person’s life, no matter who they are or what they have done.. The Spirit is already there. Jesus is already at work. What is needed is spiritual growth to the point where our harmful practices can be overcome and healed. Letting Jesus into our lives begins to change us from the inside out.  As we surrender ourselves to God, the Spirit gives all of us, including the molester strength and healing. This is helped by spiritual practices, therapy, Christian community, good teaching, and some healthy relationship with adults who know the problem.  Our salvation is not dependent  on behaving a certain way. We are saved not because of what we do but because God loves us and would not do anything else but save us.  Pastor Paul.

 

Anyways, to answer your question, I don’t think you have to change your ways for God to accept you.  He loves you just the way you are (I mean, He created you). Pastor Clayton.

 

All you have to do is ask to be forgiven and you will be cleaned by Him, by nothing of your own doing simply by His grace. You could say something like this: Heavenly Father, I know I have sinned and fallen short on my own, I need you. Thank You Jesus for dying for my sins. I believe that you rose from your tomb and you now sit at the throne with your Father God. Thank you for your mercy and the gift of everlasting life. Amen.  Pastor Cheyenne

 

None of us will ever stop sinning, even with Christ, we are simply forgiven. Pastor Beeman

I have been asked to respond to your question. A simple answer would be "No," but that needs qualification. Even if you had asked, "Will a person stop sinning after receiving Christ?" the answer would still be "No," yet also with a qualification. We do know from the Bible that no one reaches perfection in this human life. In speaking to believers, John said, "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives" (1 John 1:8-10).

So we come back to your question, "Does a person have to stop sinning to receive Christ?" Absolutely not. We need God's help to stop sinning, and being saved is the first step in gaining victory over our fallen nature's tendency to sin, even though it may still be a struggle after we receive Christ. Zenas J. Bicket

 

The adulterous woman was forgiven, then told to leave her sin habit. John 8:3-11  We are unable to stop sinning without God's help. Pastor Tim

 

No, we are incapable of stopping sin before we receive Christ (take a look at Romans 7:14 - 8:2)...this occurs only through the indwelling presence and power of the Holy Spirit in our lives.  

Pastor Stan

 

Jesus takes us where we are (adultery, lying, stealing, language, pride, greed, etc.), forgives us, changes us and does for us what we cannot do for ourselves. Pastor Dave

 

There are NO requirements to receive Christ.  Not before or after.  Only sincerity.

 

First is the matter of chronological order.  God does not expect us to stop sinning first, and then seek salvation. Second, God does expect us to stop sinning after we are saved. Pastor Don

 

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We have Hundreds more of these same kind of Emails. There is NOT a SINGLE mention of Bible Repentance in ANY of them! 2Cor7:10-11 CLEARLY States that the Result of Godly Sorrow for sin and Repentance is a Diligent Zeal to Clear oneself of all wrong doing and a PURITY of Heart that follows!

Repentance and Faith is the PATH to God! (Acts20:21) DEEDS PROVE REPENTANCE! (Acts26:20)

The Sin STOPS and the Flesh is Crucified in Repentance! (Rom6:4-6) THE CHANGE Happens in Repentance or NOT at all!

 

The Pastors have it in REVERSE! And in doing so, they have RUINED the Gospel Message. If you have Come to Christ without going through the Process of Godly sorrow, Clearing and Repentance, you have Received NOTHING from God and remain in your sins. Anyone who has taken the advice of these Pastors needs Desperately to Seek God in Broken Hearted Repentance and Faith until they are assured by the Holy Spirit HIMSELF, their sins have been washed away and forgiven in Christ.

 

According to the Bible:

The Power and Corruption of sin is Broken in Repentance, NOT AFTER!

The Process of Clearing and Cleaning Happen in Repentance, NOT AFTER!

True Faith Results in PURITY of Heart. The Convert will not CONTINUE in immorality or lust.

Further Growth in Grace is a matter of Bearing Fruit unto Righteousness, NOT sinning less and less!

The Holy Spirit WILL NOT indwell a heart still defiled by sin! (2Cor6:16-18)

 

Of Course God is the One Who Initiates Conviction of sin through the Holy Spirit. He is the Author and finisher of Salvation to all who OBEY HIM! (Heb5:9) Faith Requires Heart Obedience (Rom6:17) and Repentance that includes Zeal, Fear, Clearing and Purity! Just as the Un-Faithful Spouse MUST STOP their adulterous affair if they expect to be forgiven, so YOU MUST STOP sinning (at least the Known sin!) BEFORE the Forgiveness of God can be Granted. (God DOES expect the Sin to Stop!)

 

(Note: Examine any instance of Repentance in Scripture honestly and this always holds true!)

 

For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear (PURE)  in this matter. 2Cor7:10-11

 

Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin. Rom6:4-6

 

First to those in Damascus, then to those in Jerusalem and in all Judea, and to the Gentiles also, I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds. Acts26:20

 

 

The Clean up seems to be a real Sticking point with the Pastors.

1)       They Unanimously said that God Cleans you up AFTER Salvation, not in Repentance.

2)        They all seem to think that no one is capable of Stopping any sin, until they are saved

3)       MANY say that the sin NEVER Stops! (with no qualifications as to what sin)

4)       And most of them equate you Cleaning up to Receive Christ with tying to ‘Save’ yourself! Therefore this serves as Proof Positive they DO NOT Preach Bible Repentance.

5)       Again, these Responses represent Hundreds of Similar Emails we Received. There were no exceptions to the opinion of God Cleaning you up AFTER Salvation.

 

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The Clean up:   (No Repentance Necessary!)

 

No, you go to HIM and he will clean you up. Pastor Eloy Pacheco

 

So the short answer to your question is, no, a person does not have to clean up his or her life before coming to Christ.  We come just as we are, sins and all. Dr Andrew Wood

 

We would all be in big trouble if God asked us to be clean and worthy of HIm before we received Him.  Our problem is that we all come to God dirty and covered with sin--to one degree or another--and there is nothing we could ever do to be worthy of what God offers and we need--eternal life Fortunately for us, God doesn't ask us to be clean before we come. Pastor Jeff Martell

 

If the question is, “Can God save someone who is addicted to pornography, just as he is (in his addicted state)?”, the answer is, YES. We don’t “clean up our act” before we come to Christ.  We come as we are – repentant sinners, trusting in Christ. Pastor Bill

 

in answer to your question, no, a person does not have to clean up their life before receiving Jesus. God wishes us to come to Him just as we are. After asking Jesus to be our Lord and Savior, He will then help us to clean up our act. He never expects us to do it on our own.

Pastor King

 

Pastor says:   No, you don't have to clean up before you take a bath.

 

The Bible teaches that “While we were yet sinners Christ died for us.”   That means that a person can receive Jesus by faith even in the midst of sin. Pastor Stokes

 

 So the answer is that we are all sinners, we all continue to sin, but as obedient believers we are covered by the grace that ultimately saves us  We will never stop sinning altogether in this world. Pastor Earl    

 

Christians are never completely without sin. And if we were to try to stop sinning BEFORE coming to Christ, no one would ever be born again. Pastor Tipton

 

Does a person have to "clean up their life" before they can receive Christ? The answer to this question is "No"!  There are some people who believe they have to have their life all straightened out before they are "presentable" to come to Christ.  This is not true.  Pastor Chad

 

Thanks for your question, it’s a great one. The short answer is No, a person does not have to stop sinning to receive Christ. In fact, it would be impossible for a person to stop sinning before receiving Christ. Pastor Justin Nails

 

Here's a nut shell explanation from my perspective, as to what I perceive you are asking about. We can be saved at any point in our lives and any point in our sinful existence.  We sing the song, "Just As I Am," and that is a valid Biblical principle.  I've had many folks tell me that they'll come to Christ after they take care of a few things (cussing, drinking, etc, etc).  They think they have to be worthy to come to Christ.  Consequently, many do not do it for some time, or even ever. Pastor Tim Syder

 

Your question says does a person "have to stop sinning" which makes me think of stopping sinning as a prerequisite to accepting Christ. If that were true then no-one would be able to accept Christ because stopping sinning is difficult to impossible with Christ and without Christ it is definitely not even within view as a possibility. Pastor Travis Brown

 

Accepting Christ is a matter of being "justified by faith." It is not by works, so it does not have anything to do with sinning or not sinning. Pastor Stephen

 

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WITHOUT Question God Expects (Demands) that you come to Him in Repentance and Faith! (Acts20:21)

Repentance (CLEARLY Defined in the Bible) Includes: ‘Godly sorrow for sin, a deep anguish of soul that brings about a Transformation of Mind, Purposes, Opinions and Inclinations!’ FOLLOWED by a Total Change in CONDUCT

. In this Repentance:

1)       The Sin STOPS!

2)       The Heart is Cleaned up! (Made Pure)

3)       Justification is Granted!

 

It is here that the Pastors have Convinced themselves that a Bad Tree can bear Good Fruit. In there eagerness to see church membership roles increase and to measure their success in numbers, they have REVERSED the Process of Salvation! Converts are encouraged to ‘Receive Jesus’ in their sins, (no questions asked!) and then told that God will later Clean them up (over time) if they let Him. This fits into the ‘Not of Works’ Gospel everyone Preaches and appeals to the weakness of the flesh. People flock into these churches, responding to this message, ‘Believing’ they are Receiving the Free Gift of Salvation from a God who will now Permit them to sin with impunity, if they merely agree with HIM that they are helpless sinners incapable of doing anything Right.

 

This eliminates the need for Repentance. Although the Word is used by some of them, it means something ENTIRELY Different than TURNING from your sin. At best, it’s a Gradual turning from sin or a Process of sin, confess, sin, confess throughout the remainder of your life. NEVER a Stopping of that sin. Also it doesn’t seem to matter the seriousness or vileness of the sin involved. (including child molestation, as we have shown) Whether the person is addicted to Pornography, drugs, alcohol, engaged in some immoral behavior, or just has a vile disposition of cussing, smoking and drinking, NO Qualifications are raised.

Just ‘Come as you are’ and Jesus will Clean you up when He’s ready.

 

This Message has gone unabated for so long in the churches that the True Preaching of Repentance sounds heretical to the people. They are Pre-programmed to reject it. MOST are fully Convinced that a Bad Tree can Bear Acceptable Fruit unto God, because His Grace will PICK UP the slack for them. Therefore they remain Double-Minded, Divided in heart and Serving two Masters! The churches are overflowing with Professing Christians who have come to Christ in this manner. (without a true Repentance!) Immoral behavior among them is commonplace. As is Envy, Strife, Jealously, contentions, Selfishness, bitterness, anger, malice and even hatred.

 

The Pastors Cannot Challenge anyone because they ALLOWED them in ‘as is’ in the first place! Thus the System feeds on itself giving it the illusion of creditability. The MORPH is Complete as long as no one is allowed to disturb the status quo, the people are comfortable and well pacified in their delusion. The Pastors can moralize about Doing the Right thing or Obeying God (thinking they are expounding a hard message) While underneath it all they Preach Salvation in REVERSE! (And THIS is the Very Reason that so FEW of you are able to Discern the Lie when you hear it.)

 

Behind all the Fluff and well sounding words, lurks a Doctrine of Demons that has Rendered the Gospel Null and Void in our time. The Apostle Peter said it Best, many thousands of years ago:

 

For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 2Pet2:18-19

 

If what these Pastors are Preaching is NOT ‘Promising people Liberty in their sins’, I DON’T Know what is! The Bible Says you are a SLAVE to WHO you Obey! (Rom6:16) If Repentance and Faith cannot Break this Bondage to sin, then Christ Died in Vain!

 

Let the wicked forsake his way, And the unrighteous man his thoughts; Let him return to the LORD, And He will have mercy on him; And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon. Isa55:7

 

What are you Receiving? (Redemption through His Blood or an Exchange of status?)

1)       The Pastors say that Christ had to Become Sin

2)       Therefore God had to Punish Him as a Sinner in our place

3)       He Died so we Don’t have to!

4)       If you Trust in What He did (His Finished Work on Cross) you are saved.

 

The Difficulty with this flaw, like all the others, is HOW to Persuade someone it is Wrong when they are Going through all the motions of Christianity. The average church pastor today is busy teaching, preaching, baptizing new members, doing outreach, visiting the sick and elderly and planning activities. And for the most part the churches are experiencing a measure of success. As we have stated already, they have the APPEARANCE or (Form) of spirituality but are sorely lacking in Biblical godliness. The Question then is WHAT will it take to Awaken them to their impoverishment?

 

The Ramifications behind this False Theology are devastating to the Plan of Redemption. From the teaching we have Sin forgiven in ADVANCE. God not able to See you Sinning. And no necessity of you dying to sin in Repentance, because He Died for you already! Yet this VILE Doctrine remains as one of the fundamental tenants of Church Creed. Many of them claim that Jesus went to hell for our sins! (Also the awful Doctrine of imputed righteousness, meaning God Transfers Jesus Perfect Righteousness and Obedience to you in exchange for your sin, is divvied out of this.)

 

{Although you will find the imputed righteousness teaching has various modifications between Churches, you WILL NOT find ANY Pastor Teaching DOING the Right thing by Faith working by love, as the Bible calls Righteousness. Gal5:6, 1Jh3:7-10}

 

In Reality the Bible Teaches Clearly that Jesus was a ‘Sin Offering’ (the operative word, offering, not became sin! 2Cor5:21) He was Punished unjustly by man, NOT God. (His Sacrifice was a Sweet smelling aroma to God! Eph5:2) And offering Himself (a perfect Sacrifice without spot or blemish, Heb9:14) to God as RANSOM to FREE man from the BONDAGE and Corruption of Sin. Titus2:14. ON THE CONDITION that you DIE with HIM to sin and FOLLOW and OBEY His example! (1Pet2:24, Col1:23, Heb3:14, Rom6:4-6) BIG Difference! The Difference between having your Sins Forgiven and Washed away in His Blood and REMAINING in them!

 

This Doctrine is the very reason that the churches will not preach the Narrow Way, or Strive to Enter the Narrow Gate! (Matt7:14-15) And why the good works of faith are merely a by-product of believing in Jesus, NOT the FAITH Itself expressed in an Obedient heart! Therefore taking up your cross, deny self, working out your salvation, running the race, walking in the Steps of Faith and Doing the Deeds of faith, have NOTHING to do with the Outcome of your salvation. That’s Decided in advance, the moment you believe in Jesus. The Warnings and the Obedience of Scripture are mere FLUFF, always Cushioned by the underlying theme that Jesus did it all by obeying God and if you ‘Trust’ that everything will be ok.

 

Here is how they Set you up to Believe the Lie:

1)       First, God Requires Absolute Obedience and Perfection to His Moral Law

2)       You a ‘depraved’ born sinner have NO WAY of achieving this Perfection

3)       So God Accepts Jesus Obedience & Perfection in your place! You Truth that and saved

4)       Then they tell you that Good Works will follow this faith, if its real

5)       BUT they ALREADY Told you Jesus Did the Works for you in Advance!

6)       So NOTHING you DO really Matters, therefore you WON’T DO anything!

 

The Deception is: THEY CANCEL each other OUT!  The Effect of a WORKING Faith According to the scriptures is negated by the CONCLUSION you CAN’T OBEY God to Begin with! Therefore all the preaching and admonishment about Doing the Right thing or Keeping His Commandments is ineffectual. Although it sounds good, and makes you ‘think’ they are teaching the truth, the Message itself is flawed.

Tell someone Salvation is ‘Not of Works’ but NEVER tell them that True Faith WORKS by love, Purifies the heart and has Victory over the Flesh and you have annulled the effects of Grace. Instead of Producing Godliness and Self-Control (Titus2:11-14) it Produces Complacent and lukewarm converts.

 

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Here’s more Proof Selected from thousands of Responses:

 

 

Receiving Him:  (The Package!)

 

It means not what I do but what He has done for me.  Man can not save himself, he can't even be obedient.  Grace is freely given by Jesus and we are saved if we believe on him, that He is the Son of God!!!!!  Pastor Dennis

 

I believe that we benefit from the righteousness of Jesus Christ in two ways.  His "passive righteousness" (shedding his blood and dying on the cross) accomplished the forgiveness of our sins.  His "active righteousness" (living in perfect obedience to the Father) enables us to be considered (when that righteousness is imputed to us through faith) God's perfect children, who will experience His love throughout eternity. Pastor Ekerison

 

We are not saved by obeying commands. It is a free gift that we receive by trusting Christ through faith. We grow and walk in the way of the Spirit by obedience. Pastor MC

 

The most basic answer I can give you is that Christ's righteousness is credited to us and our sin is credited to him in a legal exchange, leading to our salvation and his crucifixion. Pastor Press

 

Lastly, God looks at the believer, not as sinless, but rather free from the penalty that sin endered. Accepting and trusting in the Lord Jesus Christ, frees us from sin's judgment not from sin itself. In the eyes of God we are justified, Satan is petrified, with the Holy Spirit we are unified, and by God's Grace we must be dignified! Pastor Leonard.

 

Imputed means to transfer credit or assign, it doesn't mean earn.  The righteousness of Christ is credited to our account, in other words what we owe God according to His law in payment for our sin is paid for by the cross, the shed blood of Jesus.  We are given credit for His work so God forgives our sin and removes the barrier it imposed on the basis of His law being satisfied by the payment of Christ. Pastor Newman

 

No one ever STOPS sinning.  We only take a different view of our sin. Dr Webb

 

Because of our sin, we are not righteous on our own.  In fact, part of the literal definition of sin is "to miss the mark."  We miss meeting God's legal standard.  Jesus, however, lived a perfect, sinless life.  He actually measured up to God's legal standard.  He had His own righteousness.  Rather than claiming His right to enjoy the benefits of His righteousness and leaving us to pay the penalty for our sins, Jesus offered to pay our penalty.  Only He could do this, because everyone else is guilty of sin.  When He died on the cross, Jesus took our guilt on Himself and offered us His innocence.  It's like He served our prison term for us, or took the death penalty for us.

Pastor Hyde

 

Our sins are atoned for, covered by Christ’s atoning sacrifice. Thus the penalty of our sin is imputed to Christ and paid for by His death.  The imputation of His righteousness is what fulfills the just requirements of the Law. Pastor Wheeler

 

Here is what many fail to recognize or just do not understand.  When Jesus died on the cross, He paid the penalty for every last sin of every last fallen son of Adam.  At the time Jesus paid for your sins and mine, all of those sins were in the present – none of them had been committed. So when I trusted Christ as a 7 year old boy, He didn't just forgive me of the sins I had committed up to that point.  He forgave me of every sin I was yet to commit.  God forbid, but chances are I'll sin again before the day is through.  But I'm not worried about losing my soul because that sin has been forgiven. Pastor Brown

 

Jesus died to forgive us all sin, past, present and future.  If we’ve decided to follow Him with our lives, He’s forgiven us even of our future sins (although that doesn’t mean we can take advantage of His grace).  When we die, we can have confidence that He sees us “white as snow” and assured of eternity with Him in Heaven. Pastor Bewdey

 

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Consider the following:

 

IF the Gospel does Indeed consist of what the Pastors are saying, ‘No Obedience, No Repentance, Sins forgiven in advance, Righteousness of Christ Transferred to us by Faith’,  WHY Can’t we find it ANYWHERE in the Teachings of Jesus? (even by conjecture!)

 

EVERYTHING Jesus Taught while on earth involved DOING Something to enter the Kingdom, EVERY illustration, every Parable, everything He Discussed with the people required some form of heartfelt Obedience to fulfill. He had EVERY Opportunity to clarify the issues of Grace and Faith and show that by simple TRUST in His Accomplishments a person could be saved forever while still in his sins. YET He expressed the VERY OPPOSITE!

 

The Gospel According to JESUS:

Ask, Seek, Knock, Obey, DO, KEEP, Holdfast, Follow, Dig Deep, Don’t look Back, Die Daily, Deny Self, Strive, Make every effort, Bring Forth Fruit, Watch, Be Ready, Endure, Overcome, Carry Cross.

 

WHERE Did He say these things were DONE for you, because He Obeyed the Father? WHO Decided they were merely SUGGESTIONS and NOT Vitally Linked to the Outcome of your Salvation? Are you going to Stake the eternal destination of your soul on a SINGLE Passage of Scripture, (John3:16) Believing that it summarizes the entire Gospel Message in a nutshell? If the Gospel can be Condensed to ‘Believe’ in Jesus, you MUST include the MEANING of Believe in EVERYTHING HE Taught about Following and Obeying Him! Otherwise you INVALIDATE His Teaching altogether.

 

WHY Did He Constantly Proclaim loudly to the People around Him, “IF ANYONE Wants to Come after Me, Let him deny himself and take up his Cross daily and FOLLOW Me!” Lk9:23. WHY Didn’t He tell the Rich young man to TRUST in His accomplishment on the Cross to inherit eternal life, INSTEAD of Selling all his goods to the poor and Following Him? (it was the perfect opportunity to do so, to the question, ‘what must I do to inherit eternal life’ ) 

 

WHERE Does ‘Believing’ on Him exempt you from OBEYING HIM? ALL the Pastors (we contacted) claim you CAN’T Obey Him. WHERE Did JESUS SAY you are Incapable of Obeying Him? EVERY Faithful Servant in Scripture is Shown DOING the Master’s Will and Preparing themselves to enter into His Kingdom. WHAT is the Difference between the Sheep and the Goats in Matt25, BUT WHAT the Sheep DID and the Goats DID NOT!

 

Somebody has it WRONG! Either Christ Himself or the Pastors. Somebody has decided that the Gospel Works better minus Repentance and Obedience. (and we have NOT been able to find ANYONE who hasn’t bought into it!) When it comes to initial Salvation, Obedience is OUT the window. Anything past TRUSTING in Jesus is considered ‘Saving yourself!’ (As though everything Jesus said about Obeying Him is OPTIONAL and inconsequential to Trust.) 

 

NO ONE seems to be Connecting the Dots and showing that FAITH of itself IS: Obedience, Purity, Sincerity, Deeds and Love! You CANNOT separate these vital elements of faith and expect it to WORK in the process of Salvation! By Definition (in Scripture) FAITH is OBEDIENCE to God! THAT’S Why is it Counted by God as Righteousness. Because it UPHOLDS the Righteous Requirements of His Moral Law!

WHAT STEPS did Abraham WALK? (Rom4:12) DID Christ OBEY for him? His Faith was expressed to God by his DEEDS, which proceeded out of an Obedient heart of love! (James2:24)

 

WHY is the Standard of Conversion in your churches so FAR removed from the Simple Truths of Scripture. WHY are people considered Converted to Christ who DO NOT Obey Him? Who Continue in their sins, Cuss, drink, smoke, have vile dispositions? WHY is immorality, divorce, drunkenness, and child abuse so rampant among professed Christians? WHY is it considered the Love of God to Treat the people engaged in these sins as followers of Christ? WHY are the Pastors so wiling to accept the ‘Repeat’ after me style of conversion when it is so obviously ineffectual in brining anyone OUT of their sins? WHY do YOU, dear reader, SIT idly by in these churches, saying NOTHING, for years, THINKING that you’re OK because you ‘believe’ in Jesus!

 

We have SHOWN you WHY!

 

Because NO ONE is Preaching a Repentance that involves a Crisis of Conviction and season of Godly sorrow for sin! There is NO Zeal or Diligence in the so-called Converts to Clear themselves of wrong doing, or to PURIFY their hearts by Faith WORKING by Love! People are encouraged to ‘accept’ Jesus Christ as their personal Savior, but NOT REPENT of their sins. They are told that God Loves them, but NOT that they must OBEY Him to inherit the Kingdom. The Lie is going unchallenged, people are dying and going to hell and YOU Can’t tell the Difference Between the Spirit of Truth and the spirit of Error!

 

God Help you Wake up and CONTEND for the Faith!